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Thursday, December 01, 2005

Will The Real Jerry Falwell Please Shut Up.

You all know how I feel about Pat Robertson thanks to a post I wrote a few days ago. Today, I will vent about his bed buddy Jerry Falwell.

Every December, it is the same thing. People like Falwell have to make a big stink because according to them there are not enough Christmas decorations - that meet with their personal approval - on display. They want tax money to buy nativity displays, and have these displays on every street corner and every public plot of land. They want al stores to be so full of christian symbols that there is no room for stuff to sell. They want all radio stations to play nothing buy church music. And in the case of Mr. Falwell, he wants every television station to just put his fat ass, and nothing else, on the tube.

The evangelical movement claim that the holiday is under attack. They claim that evil athiests and non-christians (meaning those jesus killing jews) want to flush the holiday down the toilet. They want to FORCE the holiday upon everyone, because after all according to them the only way into heaven is to believe exactly what they tell you to believe.

Free thought is from the devil. And so is EVERY OTHER RELIGION.

But lets look at this holiday season through my eyes. I do not subscribe to ANY religion, so I think this gives me a more objective soapbox from which to rant from.

1. Not everyone is a christian, but everyone IS a taxpayer. The whole hoopla over religous displays on public property revolves around this fact, it is NOT an attack on a religion. It has to do with the responsible spending of our collective money. Should the local government spend money on some plastic displays, or spend that money feeding poor people? And if you are going to spend tax money on religous displays, where does it end? Should tax money be spent on jewish symbols? Or how about the month of ramadan? What about hindu holidays? Where does it end? Hindus pay taxes too you know. Is it right to simply ignore their important holidays?

2. This is NOT a christian nation! It is not a jewish nation, it is not an athiest nation - it is simply a nation with unlimited religous freedom. People are free to believe whatever they want, and worship any way they want, so long as you are not doing human sacrifice or anything. The church is seperated from the state, to protect THE CHURCH from the sleeze that is politics. Why these clowns want to mix the church up with the smut and slime that is government is beyond me. Religion will not purify politics, politics will stain religion with blood and greed. This is why the people who started the nation wisely seperated religion from politics. It was not because Thomas Jefferson was a godless athiest who hated christmas.

3. Malls and stores are private business. If the malls thought that people would buy more crap if they replaced the christmas tree (a very secular symbol) with a plastic baby jesus you can bet your ass they would. The fact that stores do not have more non-secular symbols reflects the fact that market research found that this is what shoppers want! Shoppers WANT the giant dead tree. Shoppers WANT their kids photo taken with some creepy guy in a santa costume. Shoppers do not go to a mall to see a nativity display - they go to CHURCH for that. Stores are for BUYING STUFF, churches are for WORSHIP. Get it? Good.

4. Secular symbols of the holiday, such as snowmen, dead trees, reindeer, and so forth are more commonly displayed because that is just the way it is. Like it or not, capitalism has turned christmas into a shopping holiday. Hell, I celebrate christmas - but I do not go to church. I just buy stuff and give it to my friends and family. To me, this time of year is a time to celebrate all that is good in my life. I will spend more time with friends, I will go to holiday parties, I will drink more alcohol, I will buy gifts, and so on.

5. There is no law saying that you can and can not put in your own home, or on your own lawn, during the season. If your neighbors snowman and red nosed reindeer offends you, put up your own display! If you want a public display, then use church property! Nobody will say anything about a church display - because of that seperation thing. The state shall make NO LAWS telling a church what they can and can not believe, or what decorations they can display.

6. Most everything to do with christmas is made up anyway. I am not talking about the birth of Jesus part - that is a matter of faith, and something very personal to people who believe. What IS made up is the timing. Where in the Bible does it say Jesus was born on December 25? The bible mentions no date - that that is a fact.

The early church made up the date, because pagen religions would celebrate winter solstice. December 25 ALWAYS falls very close to solstice. Solstice celebrations would last several days, and so does Christmas. Replacing pagen holidays with new christian holidays was something the early church was very good at.

7. Many symbols that churches use are PAGEN in nature - yet they use them anyway. Pagens used to think that evergreen trees had magical powers, because they would stay green all winter while other trees would look dead. Obviously, there was some magic going on there! So they would decorate trees, to please the spirits in the tree and make winter end sooner. Today we have "christmas trees".

Missletoe was hung in homes to keep evil spirts away. Today, the same plant is hung over doorways as an excuse to cop a feel.

Yet, most churches put these pagen symbols up. Why is this? Did Jesus ever have a christmas tree? But yet, there is a tree on the set of the 700 Club. All decorated with pretty glass balls and lights and stuff. Christmas trees became popular in Victorian times, before that you would NEVER see such a symbol of pagenism in a holy church! People like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are therfore contributing to the secularism of their own holiday!

My grandparents were super religous baptists. They were Southern Baptists. You know what they thought of nativity displays when they first became popular? They thought they were gaudy, and in poor taste. It says in the bible that one should not make graven images right? Religous statues were something only Catholics made. But now, every church puts them up. So much for "traditional values" huh?

I will wrap this post up by repeating my main points.

1. Nobody is attacking christmas.
2. Not everyone celebrates christmas as a religous holiday.
3. Everyone DOES use the malls and other stores.
4. If you are religous, and are offended over what the holiday has become - remember that it is the retail business that did it, not some athiest plot. In December, athiests are all too drunk to plot ANYTHING.
5. Not a single non-christian is trying to tell churches how to celebrate, yet this time of year it seems that every church tries to tell the population how to celebrate.

Freedom of religion is a two way street. You have the freedom to believe whatever you want, and so do I.

Yet, every year it is the same thing. I find it amusing to just sit on the sideline, with no opinion one way or the other. Nativity displays do not offend me, even if they are on public property. I just think it is silly for people to make such a big deal over it - one way or the other.

If you made it this far, do not forget to check out the post below this one!

13 Comments:

Blogger Saur♥Kraut said...

OK, I can't resist telling this true story about my friend here. I swear this is true. I am NOT making it up.

I grew up with a girl (let's call her Candy) who was a very popular girl in the local Christian fundie school. She was a cheerleader, blond and cute with freckles (you know the type). I was Daria, she was Daria's sister (if you know the cartoon).

She went on to Liberty Bible College (Jerry Falwell's college). This took place in the 80s, BTW.

Being one of the cutest girls on campus, she attracted the notice of one of Falwell's sons. They began dating, but I think they'd only had a couple dates when they had their last date.

During one of their dates, they went to an area where they could look out over the town and maybe neck a little bit. There was always very little traffic that came up that mountainous area. As they were sitting there, they could see the headlights of a car coming up.

Candy had a cute sense of humor. She decided to stick her legs out the window and wave them about. Well, the car that pulled up next to them was Falwell himself.

Of course that was the death knell to their relationship and Candy was MORTIFIED.

She did go on to lead a happy and productive life, later married and has a couple kids. But this story is something that I'm sure she'll be telling her grandkids someday.

Of course, it didn't turn out well for her at that time...

14:22  
Blogger Allen said...

TLI

First, thanks for dropping by my rarely-updated (MAN is life busy!) blog today. I do appreciate it. I did address your comment, FWIW.

Second, I'll primarily address your first point: that no one is attacking Christmas. That's just not true. That's the problem. Is some of the reaction to that attack overkill? Arguably so. But if the ACLU hadn't wasted the last 20 years of its existence by worrying about "government-sanctioned" Christmas acknowledgements, and forcing atheism upon the populace, you wouldn't have folks reacting and overreacting in the manners that are frustrating you.

The truth of the matter is that atheism is just as much a "faith" as Christianity - with the individual as the source of moral authority and traditions appropriately individualistic in nature. So to replace religious celebrations with mandated atheistic substitutes is hardly to take a truly secular stance, in the sense of our nation's governance being secular. It is to declare atheism the national faith. That ... that is the problem.

If the ACLU had been more prudent and sought solutions rather than new dogmas, this could have been avoided.

14:27  
Blogger dddragon said...

once again I'm in agreement with you. Is there a way that we can take over one of the 50 states and restrict it to non-idiots?

15:49  
Blogger The Lazy Iguana said...

I do not think that one can force "athiesim" on the population. On matters of faith, proof is not important. Faith is what can exist in the absence of evidence. You believe something because you believe it to be true - asking for proof means you have questions - and therefore you lack absolute faith.

The ACLU has simply been saying that the state should keep out of the religion racket - and I agree with this view. There are many religions active in the USA. So when the government (local, state, or federal) gets involved with "sponsoring" one religous holiday, should they also have to sponsor them all? Would you agree that town hall should be decorated, at taxpayer expense, for the scientology holiday of L Ron's birthday?

The argument that "the majority of the people are christian" is not the point. The constitution protects ALL religous rights - and mainly the rights of the minority (the majority rarely need protection).

The reason why I do not see any attack on christmas is because I do not hear anyone trying to ban the holiday. All that is being said is that tax money, public money, money that EVERYONE pays regardless of what they believe or do not believe, should not be used to promote or villify any religion.

17:31  
Blogger BarbaraFromCalifornia said...

Well, you read my post this morning, and you know how I feel about the man. He is a complete contradiction. Everything he wants people to think he stands for, in reality, he turns against. He has less tolerance than almost any minister I have encountered as well. That being said, how could he preach the values of Jesus, who was a lover of tolerance and differences?

19:10  
Blogger mal said...

I hate it when I agreee with some one. Another wasted opportunity for a perfectly good fight.


Bah Humbug

19:58  
Blogger Meegan said...

Excellent post.

22:57  
Blogger The Lazy Iguana said...

What I mean by I have no opinion one way or the other is that no matter how hard I try (I just tried for about 5 secnonds), I just can not seem to care about lawn decorations in front of City Hall. Having them there does not offend me, and not having them there does not offend me. I do not care one way or the other.

I can however see the issue at hand, and I think it is wrong for government to imply that one religion is better or more correct than another. The 1st amendment makes that crystal clear - people have the right to follow ANY faith that they choose.

And the reality, which nobody seems to want to accept, is that retailers are the ones that turned the holiday into a secular spending spree season. It is good for business.

02:19  
Blogger EarthCitizen #23 said...

Excellent post!! I am right there with you,, being a Born Again Pagan I would object to see Government money spent putting displays of Pentagrams, deities of 'pagan' natures, on courthouse lawns,, pagan can mean alot of things,, they would be surprised I think they all worship James T. Kirks anyway,,, even my pagan friends!!
Oh, and the Dec 25th date is Mithras's Birthday, always has been,, that is where it came from,, related to the Winter Solstice, but was his birthday FIRST!! Ol' Jerry would say that is the Satanic Mimicry of Lucifer trying to fool good Christians!!! What a hoot!!,,
You have a good head on your shoulders,,,, like your thinking!!! keep it up and Cheers for the Holidays!! Which ever one you may toast too!!!

02:49  
Blogger GodlessMom said...

Yep, you're right. It is the holiday season for all of us and Falwell needs to shut up.

06:14  
Blogger Aginoth said...

hi iguana...can I get you to change the link to me in your sidebar/blogroll to http://aginoth.blogspot.com/

I had to delete my other blog (trapped in the body of a civil servant)...long story

thx

16:01  
Blogger TLP said...

I agree with you of course. You know there are Christians who don't celebrate Christmas. I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian church (but managed to survive) that didn't celebrate Christmas because the bible doesn't mention it. They felt that the day of birth wasn't known and didn't matter.

I'm not bothered by the religious symbols of Christmas, but really tax money should never be spent on stuff like that in any case. We need health care for poor people. Why would we spend tax dollars on Nativity scenes?

17:00  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey I say more power to you this country forgot what it was founded on freedom of religion. so if they don't like pagens or other religions go back to england or great britan to the the prudes.

17:32  

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